What is better: Renault Sandero 2019 or Renault Logan 2019 - Model Comparison - New Auto 2020-2021

At the end of 2018, 135 208 cars of the Renault brand were purchased in Russia, of which: 31,559 pcs. - This is Sandero, and 30 285 pcs. - Logan. In 2017, everything was the opposite, the five-door hatchback enjoyed a smaller demand: 30 210 pcs. - Sandero, 30 640 pcs. - Logan. What is waiting for these models in 2019? Will they change again in places? Let's compare these two passenger cars to find out their strengths and weaknesses.

Renault Sandero 2019 or Renault Logan 2019

Prices and equipment

Renault Sander 2019 Model Year is offered to buyers in three versions: "Access", "Life" and "Drive", and Logan 2019 - in four: "Access", "Life", "Drive" and "Style". Both models in the basic configuration "Access" with a 1.6-liter gasoline engine (82 hp) and a 5-speed manual transmission are sold for 577,000 rubles. For this price of the car received: driver front airbag, ABS, IZOFIX, central locking with remote control, electronic anti-theft device and 15-inch steel wheels. To seriously consider these versions of machines for personal use. Such configuration is an exclusively marketing course to attract a larger number of potential buyers at the expense of a low start price and nothing more.

Let's better compare the minimum prices for models with automatic transmissions, which are now more popular. Renault Sandero "Life" with a 1.6-liter gasoline engine (102 hp) and a 4-speed automaton costs 747,990 rubles, and Logan in the same configuration and modification - 734,990 rubles, that is, 13,000 R. (2%) Cheaper. For this money, both cars in addition to the previous version of "Access" are equipped with a front passenger front-passenger airbag, onboard computer, air conditioning and front windows. But Sandero received another cruise control and fog lights.

And to the sedan, and to the hatchback you can buy a package "Audio" (consisting of an audio system and a stealing joystick) for 10,990 rubles, as well as the package "Winter" (lateral mirrors with electric and heating, heated front seats and windshield) for 16 990 rubles. As a result, Sandero and Logan for 775,970 p. and 762 970 p. Accordingly, it is already possible to be considered as a car for personal use. Also as additional options are offered: a remote engine start system - for 6 990 r., Era-Glonass - for 11,990 p. and a multimedia navigation system with a 7-inch screen - for 19,990 p.

Renault Sandero 2019 or Renault Logan 2019

And now let's consider the top versions of the Renault models. Sandero "Drive" 1.6 (102 hp) 4A costs 817,990 rubles, "Drive" Logan in the same configuration and modification - 789,990 rubles, that is, 28 000 p. (3%) cheaper, and Logan "Style" - 840 990 rubles, i.e. on 23 000 r. (3%) more expensive. The version of the "Drive" execution assumes the presence in cars: rear windows, lateral mirrors with electric drive and heating, heating the front seats, audio systems, cruise controls and 15-inch alloy wheels wheels. But Sandero has also received the front side airbags and climate control, and not air conditioning in contrast to the opponent.

Renault Logan "Style" got the same passive safety and climatic comfort as the five-door hatchback in the configuration "Drive". But besides this, he also received a dynamic system of coursework (ESP), rear parking sensors and windshield heating. It is worth noting that the top sandero can additionally install heat glass heating for 7,990 rubles and the security package (ESP + parking sensors from the back) for 15 990 rubles. As a result, Sandero "Drive" will cost buyers at 841,970 rubles, that is, at 980 p. (0.1%) more expensive than Logan "Style".

At the end of the comparison of prices and sets of Renault models, it is necessary to mention the availability of the sedan and hatchback of off-road versions of StepWay and Stepway City. Renault Sandero Stepway costs from 738 990 to 891,990 rubles, and Logan Stepway - from 695,990 to 852,990 rubles. A distinctive feature of this series is a higher road clearance - 195 mm. Renault Sandero Stepway City is sold from 840 990 to 922 990 rubles, and Renault Logan Stepway City - from 816 990 to 883,990 rubles. Only the most powerful motor (113 hp) and continuously variable CVT X-TRONIC transmission are installed on the vehicles.

Renault Sandero 2019 or Renault Logan 2019

Specifications

Length / Width / Height / Wheel Base Renault Sandero 2019 VS Renault Logan 2019 make up 4070/1733/1523/2589 mm against 4359/1733/1517/2634 mm, that is, a sedan is longer and slightly below the hatchback, and passengers in the back row more Places for feet. Road clearance and fuel tank are identical - 155/172 mm (under load / without load) and 50 liters, respectively. And, perhaps, one of the main differences is the volume of the luggage compartment, which is significantly less at hatchback: 320 against 510 liters. Both vehicles received the same set of 1,6-liter gasoline engines: one 8-valve - 82 hp (134 nm) and two 16-valve - 102 hp (145 nm) and 113 hp (152 nm). The transmissions are also completely identical: 5-speed "mechanics", 4-speed "automatic" and CVT X-TRONIC (only for steps).

Since we started talking about power units, then let's compare the dynamic characteristics and fuel efficiency of rivals. Overclocking time from 0 to 100 km / h (gasoline consumption in city / route / highway mode) for Renault Sandero 2019 VS Renault Logan 2019 is:

  • 1.6 (82 hp) 5mt - 13.9 s (9.4 / 5.7 / 7.1 l);
  • 1.6 (102 hp) 4A - 11.9 s (11.4 / 6.7 / 8.6 L) VS 11.7 C (10.9 / 6.7 / 8.4 l);
  • 1.6 (113 hp) 5mt - 10.7 s (8.5 / 5.6 / 6.6 l);
  • 1.6 (113 hp) CVT X-TRONIC - 11.9 VS 12.1 C (8.6 / 5.6 / 6.7 L).

According to the data presented by the manufacturer, both French models are identical or very close to each other and fuel consumption.

Renault Sandero 2019 or Renault Logan 2019

Cost of ownership

Let's compare the cost of maintenance of basic versions of models from an authorized dealer in Moscow (for example, Favorit Motors) to a run of 60,000 km (inclusive). So, Renault Sandero 2019: TO-1 (15,000 km) - 8,284 rubles., T-2 (30 000 km) - 9,986 rubles, T-3 (45 000 km) - 8 284 rub. and TO-4 (60,000 km) - 12,227 rubles. Total: 38 781 ruble. Renault Logan 2019: TO-1 (15,000 km) - 7 349 rub., T-2 (30 000 km) - 8,947 rubles, T-3 (45 000 km) - 7 349 руб. and TO-4 (60,000 km) - 10 202 rubles. Total: 33,847 rubles, that is, at 4,934 p. (13%) cheaper. As a result, when recalculating 1 kilometer, the costs of regulatory work amounted to: Sandero - 65 kopecks, Logan - 56 kopecks.

And finally, let's find out how much the owner will cost voluntary insurance against risks of hijacking and damage. To do this, as source data for online calculators, we will use cars with a capacity of 82 horsepower for 650,000 rubles, which will manage a married 40-year-old man in Moscow with 2 children and a 20-year-old driver's experience. Case Cost depending on the company and the type of insurance for Renault Sandero 2019 VS Renault Logan 2019 is:

  • Rosgosstrakh "Anti-crisis Casco" - 15 263 p. VS 16 496 r.;
  • Renaissance Insurance "Professional accompaniment" - 16,361 p. VS 24 878 r.;
  • Liberty insurance "CASCO DIRECT" - 34 390 p. VS 45 920 p.;
  • British Insurance House "Standard" - 63 498 p.;
  • Max "Standard" - 66 400 p.

As we see, the price for the insurance policy is either the same, or cheaper from Sandero.

Summary

Both of the French company are the same model, but with different body type. And only thanks to marketers, it is sold under different names. Renault Sandero 2019 model year is positioned by the manufacturer as a more expensive car. But actually it is not. In all comparable grades, it just gets a little more options compared to the opponent. The only one where the sedan really costs the rival, so it is at the maintenance station. But at the same time, Renault Logan 2019 can compensate for this difference more expensive Casco Policy. In general, by a big account, the preference of one model is another comes down to the body choosing. Therefore, this year, the ratio of demand for these models is unlikely to significantly change. And at the moment for the first half of 2019 it was sold: Sandero - 14,896 pcs., Logan - 16 396 pcs., That is, the sedan again broke out ahead.

RENAULT SANDERO 1.6 PRESTIGE automatic transmission

Common mileage - 6,900 km. Close-up from the start of the test - 5,587 km.

Our long-lasting test Renault Sandero continues. The gray-green hatchback does not cause any trouble, regularly takes us on editorial and personal needs. We have already accumulated a lot of impressions about the car, but in this publication we will not tell about how Sandero goes with the "automatic". We often ask a completely different question: What to choose - Sandero or Logan? And what prefer to make a complete set? We answer the example of two cars at once.

Logan We took not in the test park (there are usually purchased cars in top-settings) - In May of this year, I bought a cherry sedan to my parents. The selection criteria were as simple as possible: unpretentious, with normal clearance and inexpensive car maintenance under the condition of large annual runs. The latter is important, because 29,500 kilometers came to the odometer for half a year. And while Logan copes with its tasks, only one of the near light lamp burned during this time.

After restyling two years ago, all versions of Renault Logan, including "taxis" AUTENTIQUE 1.4, received several not too prominent, but important advantages. The main thing is enlarged side mirrors (before they were the privilege of the Prestige version). Plus normal door handles (sorry that only on the front doors). And more comfortable steering wheel. By the way, if you gather buy Logan or Sandero performed by Prestige, do not regret 2,200 rubles for the leather bearing "Baranki". She, though coarse, but more "chain" and much more pleasant to bare plastic.

But the conversation is now not about reliability. So, in the "red" corner of the ring - Logan 1.4 Expression with "Mechanics" and additional options: ABS, 2 airbags, air conditioning, painting "Metallic". Total - 411,800 rubles. In the "blue" corner - Sandero 1.6 Prestige with a "automatic" for 534 thousand rubles. More expensive - only the "off-road" version of StepWay with a similar 16-valve engine and automatic transmission. And if you compare Logan and Sandero with an identical level of equipment, then the surcharge for the hatchback will be 10 thousand rubles. What is the difference? And what would I like to see in our "Logan"?

Renault Sandero trunk is more convenient not only by the fact that it has folding backs of the rear sofa. There is a handle to close the door! And the cargo compartment "Logan" needs to be closed, grabby for bare metal with sharp edges. But Logan wins in the amount and convenience of placement of a full-size spare wheel - Sandero has a fifth wheel under the bottom

The main thing and the main difference is, of course, the trunk. By itself, the volume of the cargo compartment in "Logan" is more than 510 liters against just 320 from Sandero. But if the hatchback can be calmly increased to 1320 liters, then it will have to tinker with the sedan. The back of the rear sofa does not fold, but removed. And for this you will need a tool. But for the transport of large-sized items of this is not enough - it is necessary to still remove metal crossbars. Between them, it will crawl out that sports equipment (skis, snowboards), or building materials (boards, rolls).

It is curious that restyling "Logan" received a plastic cap of the towing hook, and Sandero has this loop sticking out of the rear bumper. But the fact that Logan lost the little-skilled handle of the trunk opening outside is a minus. Previously, at least there was a tiny plastic "tongue"

Otherwise, the differences between the hatchback and sedan lies solely in the "bodywork", optics and exterior details. And levels of equipment are similar. Here, perhaps, it is immediately necessary to make a reservation that the automatic box is available only with a 16-valve engine with a volume of 1.6 liters (102 hp). And the cheapest Logan with such a power unit costs at least 435 thousand rubles. It will be just in the very configuration of the Expression that the sedan presented in the photos.

Logan Expression has unpacked mirrors, black door handles and 14-inch stamped wheels with caps (at Sandero Prestige - optional 15-inch alloy wheels). Ugly? But more practical! By the way, door handles on Renault Sandero are exactly the same as the Renault Symbol sedan, there is not enough that they are too big, so also made of unpleasant cheap plastic. Reminds the "Soapny" lining, which were once popular with the owners of VAZ "nine"

And the equipment does not differ! In the same way, it will be necessary to pay extra and for the package of security systems (ABS plus two frontal pillows) for 19,800 rubles, and for air conditioning (22 thousand) and even for fog lights (4,300 rubles). And such options, such as the electric drive mirrors and their heating, as well as heated seats, are in principle not available in the EXPRESSION configuration. In general, if you are not ready to abandon the "Winter Package", you will have to buy Logan or Sandero performed by Prestige (from 496,300 rubles).

The front seats are the same for all modifications of Logan / Sandero. And they, unfortunately, will be uncomfortable for most drivers. Neither profile does not shine no side support. The heating button is picked in the blind zone. But the back is very spacious, three adult people will calmly be comforted. But in "Logan" there is a little more place (the wheel base of Sandero is less than 42 mm). Another small barcode - Sandero Prestige door panels are covered with cloth

Perhaps this is the situation in the equipment (either expression without a heap of the desired options, or expensive Prestige) and led to the great popularity of non-original mirrors with heating and various "capes" heated for seats. Of course, you can live without it, but modern cars have already managed to teach so reluctant equipment.

  • An unambiguous minus of Prestige execution is a dashboard (left). It would seem that white scales revitalize the interior. But they are good only subject to movement in the daytime. It is worth descend into a tunnel or be behind the wheel at twilight, as the driver deprives information about speed and revolutions - amber backlight on a white background makes the "tidy" absolutely "blind". Standard Splan version of Expression is much more informative. By the way, digitization here in the usual format "20-40-60", and not "30-50-70", like many French cars.
  • Gearbox levers of both machines are non-zees, but are comfortable. And on long journeys, an unexpected plus of a high kocher "automaton" was found - in position d, it can be used as ... Armrest
  • Paying 9 thousand for the optional "factory" magnet Blaupunkt there is no point, it is better for this money to buy something more decent. True, you will have to buy a couple of front speakers (the wiring in the door is carried out). But there is a special version of Sandero Energy, which has a audio system with a control panel and AUX-input. It costs from 415 thousand for a car with an 8-valve 1.6 and "mechanics" and from 471 - for the 16-valve with "automatic"

The second interesting question: Is there a bad 75-strong "basic" engine? If you have to go predominantly in urban conditions and not with full load, it is perfectly coping with my tasks. Fortunately, the mechanical gearbox has not only a good lever drive (the moves are relatively short), but also the optimally selected gear ratios - the Logan 1.4 does not "sends" when switching to the next step. You can and "Stick." True, for this, during acceleration, you need to unscrew the motor up to 5.5 thousand rpm.

  • All engines used on Logan / Sandero have long been "running" on other models of Renault, therefore "childhood diseases" are no longer a member. And the basic 1.4, and the 16-valve 1.6 are capable of consumeing the "92th" gasoline.
  • The neck of the washing liquid tank is uncomfortable - near the windshield. In addition, there is a lot of fallen foliage on this plastic panel.

But it is worth putting inside 3-4 people, like Logan 1.4 noticeably "swept." Not to mention that any overtaking on a suburban two-way road need to be planned for the mile. So lovers of dacha tits and travels in a warm company definitely worth choosing Logan 1.6. At least eight-flaped, with a capacity of 84 hp The surcharge is 15 thousand rubles, and for this money the buyer receives not only nine additional "horses". Engine 1.6 more traveled - the maximum torque is greater than that of 1.4 (124 N ∙ m versus 112), and is achieved "earlier" (2500 rpm instead of 3000).

On the course of the 16-valve Sandero does not leave the slightest chance of "Logan" with a 75-strong engine. Even with the presence of automatic transmission

And here is the 16-valve version that we have already been tested in winter, for Logan, it seems excessive - it, of course, is driving cheerfully (until "hundreds" in 10.5 seconds!), But whether it is necessary to pay extra 21 thousand for it. ? In addition, "extra" 2 horsepower forces translate the car into another bet of transport tax and the OSAGO policy. And the Sandero 16V turned out to be a little hard on the go, rather than Logan 1.4, although, of course, the stunning suspension of the suspension is not doing anywhere. Yes, and noise insulation at the fulfillment of Prestige is no better - inside is still noisy, and among all sources of acoustic discomfort, Barum Brilliantis tires are dominated (they are put on all versions of Logan / Sandero).

Logan is 230 mm longer than Sandero. Almost the entire increase - on the back of the back of the back (the base, as already mentioned earlier, more by 42 mm)

So what to choose? If the automatic transmission is critical, then here without options is only a 16-valve 1.6 and only PRESTIGE package. And Logan or Sandero is a matter of taste and the need for frequent transformation of the rear seats. By the way, at the Autoframos plant next year, it is planned to release 160 thousand cars, but, according to preliminary data, the share of Sandero will have only 20% instead of 50%, allotted "Logan". What does it mean? The fact that the hatchbacks will be released less than in the current year (32 thousand against almost 40). And the entire increase in the production capacity of the enterprise will go to the Renault Duster crossover. Want to Sandero? It is worth hurry!

Vadim Gagarinfoto: Vitaly Kabyshev

The French brand's budget sedan is now a crossover, and even with the variator. Like his fellow, updated hatchback. Is it worth buying them, and what exactly are the novelties from Renault differ from the models of competitors? In detail about it - in my detailed review.

What is common between Nissan Cube and Lada X-Ray? First of all, developed 16 years ago, within the framework of the Alliance by Nissan Platform B, which combined the Wishlist of consumers on the theme of pretty cars across the manufacturer's desires to save on each weep. Non-stuffed, but design!

The strategy was successful. Today, tens of cars under the brands Nissan, Renault, Dacia, Lada, Datsun, Venucia are built on the derivatives of the platform B (B0, M0, V). The platform can be unambiguously called successful. In the context of the Russian model range, Renault, the Logan sedan, the Sandero hatchback and the DUSTER crossover, by the standards of modern auto industry, demonstrated real inefficiency.

Of course, there was not without nuances, primarily associated with a stingy equipment and chromatic ergonomics. But thanks to the reliability, affordable price and energy-intensive suspension, these cars have earned honor and respect for Russians who prefer inexpensive, but still foreign cars.

Neither the sedan nor the hatchback (different, in addition to the corned trunk, shortened on a 45 mm wheelbase) was never a reference to ergonomics and manageability - but they love them not for it. Functionality and reliability for modest money are the main advantages of inexpensive Renault cars.

Add to this the presence of bad roads in Russia, and you will greatly understand why the "raised" Sandero Stepway, once brought to Russia as "submodel", which was prepared by 10% of the total sales of Sandero, quickly took the lion's share - more 80%.

Then it became clear that the idea of ​​making pseudo-crossovers from ordinary models there is a real market prospect. I think, you can not remind that AvtoVAZ is included in the group Renault, and Loreres Wang Den Aker is a direct chief of Steve Mattina. Anyway, the cross wagon of Vesta took on a bang.

At that time, Logan Stepway was already designed, but the economical French was waiting for restyling, and then not to do the same work twice. That is why Lada Vesta Cross Sedan appeared in the summer, and Logan Stepway is just now, at the time of updating the model, which, of course, affected and hatchback. Just in case, Renault decided to hint, who is the owner in the house, and giving out a new trump card - the variator. On the Vesta family, its appearance is scheduled for the next year.

Of course, there is no full drive, and the changes compared to the usual Logan \ Sandero is more modest than the difference between Lada X-ray and X-Ray Cross. Cause, again, in savings. For X-Ray as a model, it all just begins, but for the current Logan \ Sandero, the current update is MID CYCLE ACTION, restyling the middle of the life cycle. After a couple of years, first under the brand name Dacia, new "kids", built on the new CMF-B platform, will be released.

Appearance

Update, though it was minimal, but went good. LED DRL, unscreased plastic lining on the bumper (in the case of the Logan Stepway, also a new rear bumper).

Raised cars look more fun, straight antipode slogan "The above the mountain, the lower the priory." Especially funny, as the test we spent in the mountains of Montenegro.

On the roof of Logan, the rails are asked, like Sandero - a pretty narrow and high car in a plastic body kit looks almost a crossover.

16-inch discs - not casting, and skillfully masked with figured caps stamping. Disk design can be changed with a simple change of caps. Highly high-profile rubber - dimension 205/55r16.

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In some solutions, Logan if not the letter, then the Spirit reminds me of an old good brain of my friend Gregory. For example, a mechanical trunk button without a handle, or the hood loops open to all winds. LED DRL is cool, but the main headlights are all the same halogens. Far light is a little different from the neighbor - and frankly weak. But stamped discs disguised greatly.

Interior

In the salon both cars are identical and almost no different from Dorestayl. There is only a new, more comfortable steering wheel, which in the test top version has a "leather" trim.

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The new steering wheel is more convenient to keep.

Even - a little more quickly filling the multimedia system with a seventhuminum screen, which is now friendly with smartphones (USB connector is still directly on the head unit). The sound quality as was mediocre, so it remains, there is navigation, but there is no rear view chamber (only rear parking sensors).

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The digitization of the speedometer is uncomfortable, the digital speed indicator output has nowhere, well, at least, unlike Duster, the tachometer has a red zone.

Ergonomic "features" remained. The steering wheel is not regulated by departure, the system screen is located low for the driver, the climate block is in the blind area, the keys of the rear windows and the inclusion of cruise control - in the center of the console and so on. The autorem is only at the driver's windows. Finishing console and door cards made of hard plastic, but everything is fitted perfectly.

There is a regular anti-theft. The disabled stabilization system on both default cars is only at the CITY modification with the variator (from 787 990 per Logan and from 814,990 per Sandero). In the middle configuration, DRIVE can pay 15 990 - and you get an unconnected ESP, anti-totatic system and rear parking sensors. And the basic equipment of LIFE on machines without a variator and does not provide ESP!

At first, I was greatly surprised - it turns out, the buyer of "advertising" Logan Stepway for 662 990 is not enough that it is forced to pay out 29990 rubles for air conditioning (on Sandero Stepway it is already in the database), so also in principle cannot choose a car with ESP! Want to ride safely - we ask 792 990 or 791 990, respectively, in such a machine there will be not only frontal, but also side airbags (in Lada X-Ray, for example, there is no such option).

I was repeated surprising when I heard the answer from Renault representatives: 93% of buyers, even when choosing rich versions of Logan and Sandero, do not pay extra for ESP, believing that there is no point in it!

There is no central armrest in front, nor from behind (good, even though there are ISOFIX loops). Chairs - amorphous, in them uncomfortable even a person of medium height, do not want to spend on them all day. On the second row in the sedan, it is fairly spacious - even on the accordion playing. There is a little less in the host places. The back of the rear seat is folded in two parts and there, and there. In general, cheap, angry, and with amendment to the first two points, quite efficiently.

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Another typical cost-effective solution is the trunk polic. Including the role of noise insulation. Full-size reserve lies surrounded by a naked metal. Surprisingly, this is far from the most noisy car from those on which I have come to ride.

The trunk is the strong side of the Sedana Logan Stepway. 510 liters - 30 l more than Vesta or Granta. Like there, the loops across the edges occupy a lot of space. The volume of the hatchback is modest - 310 liters. Under the polite of each - the full-sized spare wheel, there is a backlight in the compartment, but what's on Hitce, which is inconvenient on the sedan, open the trunk - you need to see the hand in the slot to send to the bumper and press the tight mechanical button.

Equipment

StepWay Family Cars are completed with three types of engines - and the same amount of gearbox.

The 82-strong eight-point K7M800 1.6 eightyklovenant (82 hp at 5000 rpm, 134 nm at 2800 rpm) is aggregated with a 5-speed RENAULT JH3 handle.

The 16-valve version of his close relative, K4M, (102 hp at 5750 rpm, 145 nm at 3750 rpm) comes with robust to mind, but still by the four-stage DP2 machine.

At the head of the line - the Nissanov engine H4M 1.6 (113 hp at 5500 rpm, 152 nm at 4000 rpm). It has a maintenance-free Timing chain drive, a smaller cylinder size (78 against 79.5 mm) as well as an enlarged piston stroke (83.44 mm against 80.5 mm). With this engine, an electro-hydraulic steering power amplifier is used instead of ordinary GUR.

There are two options for the gearbox - all the same "five-way" JH3 or a Jatco JF015E clinorem variator with a torque converter, familiar to a large number of Nissan models, Mitsubishi, Suzuki and Renault. In the "Renic" specification, it is called RE0F11A, and put on the Fluence and Kaptur models.

This is a younger model designed for engines with torque up to 160 nm. The unit is considered reliable and maintainable - the belt replacement is available and is rarely required earlier than 120,000 km, the most expensive breakage in the running units - hydraulicock, the restoration of which costs 30,000 rubles.

From the point of view of the suspension, Logan Stepway is about the same as different from the usual Logan, like Sandero Stepway from Sandero. The clearance is increased due to the greater length of the springs and shock absorbers, with an increase in the working stroke both on compression and on the rebound. Front suspension - MacPherson, from behind - half-dependent beam.

The declared road clearance is 195 mm, that is, almost a centimeter is less than that of Vesta Cross or 2 cm less than that of the X-Ray Cross. Measurements with a tape measure showed that on an empty machine under the protection of a 190 mm crankcase, and one and a half or two centimeters are less than four people in the cabin.

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On the left, the basement of the variator machine, right - versions with a machine gun. When loading the ground clearance is less than 25 mm on both versions in the specification.

In machines with a variator, the subframe is located 25 mm below, due to the greater height of the power unit. As a result, the claimed clearance decreases by 25 mm, up to 170 mm. When there are four people in the cabin, under protection not more than 150 mm, and this is the reason for which the variator is put on the "raised" versions of the French state employee.

Riding Properties

First of all, I sit behind the wheel of a variator sedan. Compared to the "automatic" logan or a robot Easyr and another song. The car accelerates smoothly and without jerks, the transmission is posted on sharp starts, but provides exactly so many thrust as the accelerator pedal is pressed.

The variator successfully simulates a six-speed automatic transmission, moreover, manual mode helps to slowly slow down the engine (the setting is completely neglected for the variator!). It had to be very useful on a narrow mountain serpentine wide in one car leading to Mount Lock (1795 m above sea level).

According to the test of the tests of the variator Kaptur, I can add that the only drawback of CVT compared to the handle and automatic - the reluctance of the variator machine to go to a very cool rise, on the eye, about 50%. (This was met in the village of Hynalyg in the mountains of Azerbaijan, Kaptur barely soldered into it - lacked thrust on wheels). But on ordinary roads of such rates you will not meet.

The "automatic" machine is good on the track and in the city, but in the mountains and with a dynamic ride at the machine only two working positions - "not pulling" in normal mode and with roar is undermined in kick-down. The variator allows you to control the burden much more flexibly and convenient.

As for the manual box, that Logan in the "combat" mode I liked the most - in the mountains it is more dynamic, and you always understand what is happening, choosing the right transmission.

In the mountains is snow, under the wheels - a snow porridge. Reverse descent on another serpentine, where rocky soil and icing asphalt are mixed. Start in a steep lifting great promotes the anti-cancel system, which for a couple of seconds holds the car brakes.

Stepway energy intensity is slightly more than normal versions, but the main thing is an enlarged suspension. Suspension without breakdown swallows even large holes that are given to light shoes in the steering wheel.

At high speed when driving on uneven roads, as when accelerating into the floor from a place, the steering wheel fears in the hands, delivering from the desire to accelerate to the "maximum flow" even on empty roads. The faster you are going, the more like the variator, because with him in the cabin is noticeably quieter.

By manageability, Logan Stepway is almost no different from the usual Logan. It (handling) is tasteless, but understandable and reliable, despite the lack of feedback on a slightly "rubber" steering. Riding inappropriate comfortable, the car does not strain the driver.

In the limit bodies - a frank andersteir (called, including the large diameter of the front stub on the variator machine, on the machine with a machine, insufficient turning manifests itself a little less). With competent operation, the steering and pedals can be moved to the controlled rear axle driving, which is then neutralized with a burden.

On both ESP machines enters the work quite sharply, but does its work, helping the car to return to the trajectory after demolition on the ice. I think this system is still needed.

Hatchback handling in extreme modes liked more - the sedan has a plump "feed" and more rigid (taking into account the likely load) rear shock absorbers make their own adjustments. Here is smaller with sharp braking before turning, or when trailbreaking. It is clear that none of the buyers in the right mind will not do so, so it will simply note a somewhat greater level of comfort compared to the sedan in the same configuration (2 passengers without luggage).

Priming

On close primers who shock between rocks, as a snake riding between the stones, lower speeds, the pleasure of impenetrable suspension is greater.

The legendary energy intensity is fully present, and most importantly, there are no familiar with the usual versions of the suspension shooters with a lack of stroke.

The front suspension is quietly talking at the passage of stone placers at a speed of 80-100 km. H., while there are reappecled shoes in the steering wheel. On the other hand, not every modern crossover in principle will survive a similar ride in the rally style without consequences, but for Logan it is little things in life.

In the snow or mud ESP almost completely "cuts out" slipping, so that the variator machine turned out to be more manifold - because only this version of the ESP can be disabled to achieve the desired effect in the slip mode.

In general, talking about fuel consumption in the conditions of rally ride in the mountains is difficult - in some areas we managed to raise the average consumption of up to 24 liters per hundred. But the variator is definitely much more economical automaton, although the MCP is inferior. The average consumption per test day is 9.2 liters on the variator and 11.1 on the machine.

Comparison with Lada models In the consumer matrix of the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance, the Renault Stepway family model are located somewhere in the middle between the AvtoVAZ families, Granta and Vesta -na, one shelf with X-ray and X-Ray Cross. The real situation is slightly simpler - the competitor Renault Logan and Sandero Stepway are generally all cars that cost the same money. It is the limited amount in his pocket is the first factor leading to the purchase of a French state employee.

If you still compare with AvtoVAZ models, then: 1. Any Granta is structurally "older", easier and cheaper than any stepway in every sense. The gap is in the level of active and passive security, not in favor of AvtoVAZ.

2. The sedan Vesta Cross is more beautiful and more spacious than the Logan Stepway is more interesting, it is thinned with a tight stabilization system. But the robot is worse than the variator, and the feeling of quality in the car from Togliatti is somewhat lower.

3. Sandero Stepway is constructively closer to the usual Lada X-Ray than to the X-Ray Cross, which has passed a serious refinement from the point of view of off-road potential and manageability.

TOTAL

Stepway is an improved version of the usual Logan or Sandero. This is almost a front-wheel drive DUSTER, only in two types of body, cheaper and with a variator. Cars are not devastable, but their advantages are also indisputable.

The variator is a strong trump card of Stepway-series cars at the moment. He makes ride more comfortable that in the city that on the highway, the fuel consumption is reduced with it, the car becomes quiet at speed. Considering that now approximately 35% of sales is a two-week Logan / Sandero, this percentage will be increased.

The reputation of the French mark plays on the hand models of the STEPWAY series - buyers are ready to put up with the shortcomings that did not go anywhere, for the sale of the "whole" product, and have the right to count on a smaller, compared to competitors from Tolyatti, the loss of value, and therefore the lower cost of ownership .

The economy should be economical!

Text and Pictures: Artem Achkasov, Montenegro ***

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Sandero or Logan

Exterior design - the first thing to pay attention to. It is in the body and items of the exterior who lies the main differences.

Stylish and dynamic hatchback Sandero outwardly looks somewhat better than its fellow - sedan. At least - the old model, which looks somewhat utilitarian. He perfectly emphasizes his budget orientation of uncomplicated flat surfaces and wide racks. Logan in the new body has more attractive features and is delivered from squareness and angularity.

Looking into the trunk, it can be noted that Sandero is combined with a passenger compartment and volume is 320 liters against 510 liters of Logan. However, if necessary, the volume of the baggage compartment of the hatchback can be easily increased to 1320 liters. With a sedan, not everything is so simple, due to the design of the rear armchairs: they do not fold. If necessary, you can remove the back, but it will take a tool for this.

Both RENAULT models are well adapted to domestic roads. If you compare wheelbase, the hatchback is shorter at 45 mm. Both vehicles are equipped with energy-intensive pendants, the road clearance is decent - 160 mm at Renault Logan, and Sandero and more - 175 mm. Despite the shorter body, the hatchback is heavier than the sedan of a similar configuration for several kilograms. This is explained by the rigidity of the body. Both vehicles today survived restyling and now between them can be traced as amazing similarity. A distinctive feature is the form of fog headlights and a luggage compartment.

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Fashion for crossovers of recent years is more than obvious. Buyers suddenly loved cars with increased clearance and more brutal appearance. We will not seek the causes of this fact - we simply state the fact. And if there is a demand - there will be an offer. Automakers are in every way adjacent to the wishes of buyers and more and more crossovers produce to the market. But to design and release a new car is an expensive pleasure, not yet the fact that it will pay off. So the topic was born: conventional passenger cars in alleged crossovers. In Russia, many manufacturers went on this path - AvtoVAZ, Renault, Kia. All of them released versions with increased clearance and plastic body kit, crossing the resulting cars crossovers.

It is not interesting to argue and reason about class accessories - not the topic of this article, we, as a motor site, it became wondering how, from a technical point of view, ordinary machines turn into pseudocrossors. Sometimes it is limited only by installing larger diameter wheels and springs, in other cases, changes in the technical part are more global. We decided to consider on the example of Renault than ordinary Logan and Sandero differ from their fellow with the Stepway console.

From the history

Renault in Russia is a rich experience of alteration of ordinary cars in "crossovers". With Hatchbank Sandero, the company has done this trick back in 2010. The hatchback is better in the form of the body suitable for transforming into a "crossover". Despite the fact that Stepway was always more expensive than ordinary hatch, the raised car has become popular and quickly overtook the original.

Developing success, in 2018, Renault prepared a raised version of the Logan sedan. Measure partly forced. First, before that, the same trick did AvtoVAZ with Vesta, secondly, Sandero is not enough for Russian standards, due to the wheel base, it is noticeably less (compared to Logan) in the back row and modest trunk. Therefore, many buyers would like a raised car, but the same spacious as Logan. In 2018, such a car appeared.

Externally

The stepway differs from the "ordinary" auto externally, you do not need to describe long. Therefore, just listed.

one. 16 inches wheels With rubber 205/55, instead of 15-inch with a rubber 185/88 in "ordinary" machines. At the expense of the wheels, an increase in clearance is achieved.

2. Sam Clearance grew from 155 to 195 mm (except for versions with a variator).

3. Appeared Plastic body kit At the bottom of the body, it closes the arches, bumper, thresholds. It is believed that this is a small protection of the body on off-road, they say, it does not have to paint if that, but the function, rather, aesthetic. Additionally appeared overlays on the thresholds.

4. Sandero on the roof was added rails, which in the usual version there are no. Logan rails do not have any ordinary, nor the raised.

5. All over the body scattered Stickers Stepway. There are even a stripe on the upholstery of the seats. Why is it unclear.

6. Little Distinguished dashboard , All the same, but stepway in some versions added a fringe from red dots near the speed numbers and engine speeds. It looks very alay and distract from reading information.

Depending on the restyling of the main model, STEPWay changed, but, in general, the concept of alteration remained the same. Are the runway of ordinary Logan and Sandero? We will not judge, it can be solved for yourself.

Technically

What technically stepway differs from Logan and Sandero - the question is much more interesting. It is hidden in the depths of the car and a wide circle of buyers is unknown. We tell.

Clien enhancement required use new springs and shock absorbers . The number of turns is the same, but the ordinary cars in the twist of 12 centimeters, at raised 13 centimeters. That came the difference. Naturally, the replacement of the springs demanded and the use of other shock absorbers. What they are distinguished to say hard, but the catalog numbers are different.

Spring change as a chain reaction caused the replacement of many suspension units. Geometry has changed, it took it to recalculate. The most important difference, the raised Logan and Sandero is used Jr5 gearbox , whereas in ordinary JH3. According to the mechanical part, they are almost identical, just at JH3 traction switching drive, and JR5 is a cable. In the theory, the cable drive is more progressive, but for the consumer boxes work the same - the large course of the lever and not very clear inclusion, except that the cable box does not have the gear lever when working at idle that happens from JH3.

Another difference - Clutch drive . JH3 is a cable, and JR5 is hydraulics. By comfort for the driver of the difference, no, but in the JR5 design, the main clutch cylinder appears, the tube from the main thing to the working cylinder and the release bearing of another design. The clutch from the usual Sandero to StepWay is also not suitable, they are different. But StepWay for this part is unified with Largus - there is also a jr5 box.

Times the box was changed, then the other steel and Drive . On the drives from StepWay 23 Slot, and in ordinary machines - 21. It is not very clear how it is related to the clearance, but spare parts although it looks outwardly, but different. At the same time, the drive for STEPWAY is more rare and expensive (even from Largus for some reason are not suitable) - if you have changed, it will be cheaper on ordinary machines.

Due to the difference in the slots on StepWay it was necessary to use and Other hubs , and in different hubs, of course, fit and Different hub bearings . At this, Renault engineers did not stop and decided yet Torkemose Different use. It is worth a reservation, a particular braking system even in conventional Logan and Sandero differs depending on the engine, but stepway is exclusive even when compared with the same motors. Let's say on the 8-valve 1.6 in non-raised cars used non-ventilated discs, and in the raised already ventilated. There are no logic in this, but the engineers decided so. Times changed discs, then Caliper and brackets Also different. Surprisingly, the brake pads are the same.

This is how a small clearance gain demanded the replacement of the entire suspension. According to the scheme, it remained the same, but most of the spare parts are not interchangeable, so when ordering should be especially careful and look for rooms for the desired modification. When compared it seems that the StepWay set has a slightly greater margin of safety both for the transfer of traction effort and brakes, but in practice, it is proved that Stepway suspension lives longer than that of ordinary cars, no one succeeds. Rather, many owners note that Stepway due to increased clearance is slightly tougher in small irregularities, although his suspension remains as the same energy intensive.

Variable speed drive

A separate topic was restyling in 2018, when the Jatco JF015E variator was obtained as a transmission. This is not the coolest variator in the world, but for an inexpensive car, the box, of course, is progressive - any better than the old 4-speed automaton, which we have repeatedly scolded. The use of the variator determines several technical nuances. For example, it is installed only on StepWay, and for conventional Logan or Sandero it is not available. It seems to many marketers that want to sell cars with a "fashionable" transmission more expensive, but it turned out not so simple.

It turns out that the variator is very large for the workpiece of the Logan / Sandero. To install it, it was necessary to shift the unit down, which reduced the clearance for 4 centimeters. That is, the entire increase that we managed to get on Stepway at the expense of wheels and shock absorbers, "ate" the variator. No advantage in a variator stepway above ordinary Logan / Sandero has no. Because of this feature, the variator on ordinary cars will never be put, otherwise the clearance there will not be completely.

In addition to the fact that the variator demanded to revise the drive, hubs and bearings, with him with Kaptur on Stepway came Electro-hydraulic power steering . It is more productive and comfortable in use than the usual GUR, which is installed on all other modifications of Logan and Sandero and the "Tugness" of which even the brand adepts recognize.

After the technical parsing, it is not sin to talk about prices. Given the two types of body, three versions of engines, three types of transmission and a lot of complete sets of all different options and in conventional machines, and in raised many, so for comparison we will take two pairs. The first is the usual Logan with an 8-valve engine and "mechanics" in the configuration of Life and Logan Stepway with the same engine and in the same configuration.

According to the price of Stepway, it is more expensive by 45 thousand rubles, but it may, unlike the usual Logan, there is additionally heating the front seats, the audio system with Bluetooth, fog lights and the drive side mirrors. If all the missing equipment is purchased to the usual Logan, then the price will be different already by only 9 thousand rubles, while Stepway will remain small "nishtyaki" such as the driver's seating adjustment. In this comparison, surcharges for body kit, clearance and 16-inch wheels are practically no.

Maybe it happened only in poor configuration? Let's compare the rich. Take Sandero and Sandero Stepway in the Drive picking. Price difference - 72 thousand rubles. However, stepway and in this case is richer equipped with. He additionally has windshield heating and a multimedia system with a 7-inch touch screen. Both of these functions can be purchased for the usual Sandero for 24 thousand rubles. As a result, the surcharge for body kit and wheels will be impressive 48 thousand rubles.

findings

You can relate differently to raised cars in general and the STEPWAY series in particular. Call them with full-fledged crossovers, probably, it's still too loud, but they receive additional consumer characteristics from alteration - the fact is indisputable. Yes, and in the technical sense the difference is noticeable. Clearance is never superfluous, and the body kit can someday go goodbye. Another question is whether this is the surcharges that they ask for her. As it seems to us, in front of the choice between ordinary Logan / Sandero and raised, you need to arm the price list and compare the amount of surcharge for pseudo-syverting attributes. If the surcharge is small, then why not, and if it is great - and on ordinary cars you can easily ride, besides, they will be slightly cheaper in operation, at least due to the rubber less dimension.

Salon

Being in the cabin, it is impossible to notice the difference, because it is not.

The only difference is in the back of the body, since we are talking about different types of body. But whatever you choose, the place should be head for the rear passengers.

Of course, the design of the front panel may vary depending on the configuration of the car. For example, in the most inexpensive version, the front panel will be deserted (even in place for the radio can see the plug), and in the most expensive there is a full-fledged multimedia system with climate control unit. Of course, plastic in all the equipment is the same, like the seats.

Dynamics

It may seem that the comparison of two machines equipped with the same motors and components of the chassis will be useless. However, such an assumption will be completely incorrect - after all, the distribution of mass along the axes at Sandero is different that it cannot but influence the handling of the hatchback. A less loaded back of the Sandero may seem like a single passenger overly rigid, but it is worth it to get into the car together or threesome, as the expected smoothness of the course is achieved by Logan.

Logan is uncompromisingly comfortable - even when the driver is exclusively in the car, it is not perceived as hard. The suspension of all four wheels works perfectly with the passage of irregularities without creating strong blows. Also Renault Logan is more confidently moving through a bad road - it is not capable of rejecting from the driver chosen by the driver even major pits and other road obstacles.

We can argue about non-trust, because when equipped with the same Motors, Renault Sandero cannot get a sedan. Both cars accelerate to "hundreds" approximately 10.5 seconds, and stop overclocking 180 km / h. A similar problem of Sandero and Renault Logan can also be called high fuel consumption, which reaches 10 liters when moving within the city.

Dimensions of cars, if compared, are also different. Their difference due to the different type of body. Logan is 230 mm longer than Renault Sandero, in which this parameter is 4020 mm. The width of Logan is 1760 mm, and Sandero has 1746 mm. In the height of Sandero will be higher than a competitor with the following ratio of 1535 mm by 1470 mm, respectively, not in favor of the sedan. Renault Logan wins the capacity of the luggage compartment by 510 liters against 320 liters of Renault Sandero, almost as well as Renault Sundero Stepway. But the folding of the backs of the seats behind the recedence leads to the best indicator at the hatchback and is 1200 liters.

The difference, and not one, can be seen by measuring the longitudinal distance between the axes of the wheels. Renault Logan has a base of 2600 mm with a road lumen 150 mm, and Renault Sandero is 2588 mm with a larger clearance of 155 mm.

If you want to save on fuel then HBO on Renault Duster will help you.

Suspension

Sandero with a sixteenth glove engine on the go turned out to be faster and noticeably tougher than "Logan" with a motor 1.4. But the excellent energy intensity of the Sundero suspension still remained the same. The suspension of both cars in the cabin responds loudly, noise insulation is also very lame. Renault Logan on 23 centimeters is longer Sundero. In theory, long cars are noticeably softer, but in "Logan" the increase in length is not extended to the base, but only the rear breath.

Pendants of both machines can be called harsh. This is a tribute to their "budget." On not too expensive machines there are no very soft suspension. Yes, undoubtedly, the soft suspension walks longer and "kill" it is more complicated, but also "Logan" and "Sandero" have quite durable pendants without any frankly weak points and "children's sores". Nevertheless, the manufacturer focused on these machines under our roads that are far from ideal. This moment cannot but rejoice.

Specifications

Length / Width / Height / Wheel Base Renault Sandero 2019 VS Renault Logan 2019 make up 4070/1733/1523/2589 mm against 4359/1733/1517/2634 mm, that is, a sedan is longer and slightly below the hatchback, and passengers in the back row more Places for feet. Road clearance and fuel tank are identical - 155/172 mm (under load / without load) and 50 liters, respectively. And, perhaps, one of the main differences is the volume of the luggage compartment, which is significantly less at hatchback: 320 against 510 liters. Both vehicles received the same set of 1,6-liter gasoline engines: one 8-valve - 82 hp (134 nm) and two 16-valve - 102 hp (145 nm) and 113 hp (152 nm). The transmissions are also completely identical: 5-speed "mechanics", 4-speed "automatic" and CVT X-TRONIC (only for steps).

Since we started talking about power units, then let's compare the dynamic characteristics and fuel efficiency of rivals. Overclocking time from 0 to 100 km / h (gasoline consumption in city / route / highway mode) for Renault Sandero 2019 VS Renault Logan 2019 is:

  • 1.6 (82 hp) 5mt - 13.9 s (9.4 / 5.7 / 7.1 l);
  • 1.6 (102 hp) 4A - 11.9 s (11.4 / 6.7 / 8.6 L) VS 11.7 C (10.9 / 6.7 / 8.4 l);
  • 1.6 (113 hp) 5mt - 10.7 s (8.5 / 5.6 / 6.6 l);
  • 1.6 (113 hp) CVT X-TRONIC - 11.9 VS 12.1 C (8.6 / 5.6 / 6.7 L).

According to the data presented by the manufacturer, both French models are identical or very close to each other and fuel consumption.

Body

What is better to choose "Renault Logan" or "Renault Sandero"? Which model body is better? They are about the same in terms of ergonomics (although it is just a matter of it), the quality of the metal is similar, the quality of the painting metallic is also the same. If something starts rust, it is better to solve the question immediately and not to run. It also applies to chips, they quickly grab rust. The gaps between body elements look acceptable, everything looks smoothly.

Some body spare parts can be easily found both new, and on automotive "disassembly", because of the fact that cars are frequent. Most body spare parts are inexpensive, especially in the secondary market.

So what to choose?

Young people consider sedan more representative, as the form of the luggage compartment gives it a special appearance. Reduced in a length of 30 cm Renault Sandero has a certain advantage in a crowded city, in conditions of intensive movement. These 30 cm will greatly affect the car maneuverability, on the convenience of parking for the better. However, the reduced dimensions will not suit people with high growth - the salon is less. If a person's growth is more than 180 centimeters, then sitting in Sandero for the driver is not so comfortable as in Logan.

Thus, if you need a small car, an inexpensive, maneuverable, having an attractive look or you are a person who needs a vehicle for everyday movement around the city, in conditions of constant traffic jams, then the ideal option will be Renault Sandero. Also, this car can be recommended to people who prefer to visit fishing, ride a cottage, at the same time no more than 2 people will be in the cabin. In this case, the luggage compartment can be increased due to the decay of the rear seats. In the case when you are a family family and already have one or two children, preferably in this option to buy, as a family car, Renault Logan, due to a more spacious salon.

We are looking for differences between the blood brothers Renault - Logan and Sandero. The choice of body is a matter of taste and addiction. If you are interested in equal hatchback, the sedan is more comfortable. And if we are talking about one model, but with different motors?

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Debates about what car is called "right" - hatchback or sedan, almost like the car itself. And if the choice goes within the same model?

The new "Sandero" after the "Logan" received a registration in Togliatti this year. The sedan rides in the editorial business since the beginning of the summer, but the hatchback was in our hands for the first time. An excellent opportunity to find ten differences - or make sure that there is no particular difference and no (not counting, of course, another body). The base "Sandero" is equipped with the most economical and modern in the lineup of the gasoline engine - 1.2 liters, 75 hp, which came to a change similar to the power of the "old man" with a volume of 1.4 liters. Logan has no such. Fine! We take "Sandero" with the "younger" engine, and "Logan" - with the most powerful, 102-strong, volume of 1.6 liters.

Since the first "Logan" appeared, the popularity of the popular "Renault" grows as mushrooms after the rain. Here on the mushrooms we will check our disputes: what is more convenient, what aicient, and what is more economical and cheaper? Who will be called an agarity, and whom Borovik?

But before we go into the forest, look at the Dmitrovsky automotive polygon and examine the "mushrooms" from the head to the leg.

The choice of body is a matter of taste and addiction. If you are interested in equal hatchback, the sedan is more comfortable. Motor 1.2 ... not an amicer, of course, but the economy is unjustified.

White and tower

Do you reach the edge? Measurements of the road lumen were surprised: both machines are 160 mm - by 6 mm more than the manufacturer later. This fact caused legitimate respect, because it is not just millimeters, but the synonym for freedom of movement in Russian primers. In parallel, we note the solid metal protection of the engine, plastic pipe treads on the left side of the bottom and the lack of protruding elements.

Where are we going to prey? According to our measurements, the hatchback loses the sedan in the volume of the trunk as much as the manufacturer is only 96 liters). But the "Sandero" gives Ogean's Oboan for the convenience of loading the boot and placement of long-term. The opening of the trunk at the hatchback is noticeably more, behind the folding backs of the rear seats - space; "Logan" is content with a narrow window.

Common for two models Note: It would be more expedient to be folding backs to change places - the one is that more, not to put for the driver's seat, and for the passenger. So it would be possible to carry larger cargo by putting the driver of the front passenger and moves forward its seat as much as possible.

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06.Sand in the Sundero is a bit more convenient thanks to the shape of the doorway. But the places are slightly more in Logan.

Sand in the Sundero is a bit more convenient thanks to the shape of the doorway. But the places are slightly more in Logan.

Sand in the Sundero is a bit more convenient thanks to the shape of the doorway. But the places are slightly more in Logan.

At first, we liked the fitting of the details and the neat assembly of both machines. But the sharp eye of the mushroommnik will not be deceive, and therefore there were tapers: we found the "Logan" passenger feet and in the trunk of Sandero, "extra" self-sufficiency and pistons. Are they really extra? Or just not put in place? The only drawback under the bottom is the testing of the exhaust gas toxicity sensor to the Sundero. The "Logan" had no savory. Check out on your car and, if necessary, fasten: an uneven hour, wiring fears for a tubercle ...

Well, it's time to start the motors. Conducting parallels between the technique and the animal world, I would like to note: the one is smaller and weaken, for some reason, always louder and shrieking. Given the identity of the transmissions (five-speed boxes are the same, except that on the fifth gear of the less powerful "Sandero" gear ratio is slightly higher), we tend to seek the causes in the features of the body, as well as in the difference in tread tread patterns. "Sandero", as the measurements showed, turned out to be significantly noisy at a speed of 120 km / h, when in the automotive orchestra, the main parties sing the tires.

The lack of a 1.2-liter motor power was especially manifested with elasticity measurements. On the fourth gear in the range of 60-100 km / h, the backlog is not so noticeable. But when driving on the fifth in the range of 80-120 km / h, it seems that the hatchback does not accelerate at all! And then, trying to try the galoshes of the buyer, you begin to repent, which preferred a 1,2-liter engine. Adding 5000 rubles, would take a car with a 1.6-liter engine in 82 hp, and if you throw another 20 thousand, then 102-strong. But - not surcharge. The sedan almost disappeared from sight, and you all trample a gas pedal in vain hope is not lagging behind ...

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09.Sandero, equipped with a 1.2-liter engine, accelerated along the horizontal road of the landfill from 80 to 120 km / h more than half a minute! Logan with a 102-strong engine for it took 19 seconds.

Sandero, equipped with a 1.2-liter engine, accelerated along the horizontal road of the landfill from 80 to 120 km / h more than half a minute! Logan with a 102-strong engine for it took 19 seconds.

Sandero, equipped with a 1,2-liter engine, accelerated on the horizontal road of the landfill from 80 to 120 km / h more than half a minute! Logan with a 102-strong engine for it took 19 seconds.

In Dark Forest

On the highway with a uniform movement on the highest transmission, 75-strong Sandero is practically not inferior to 102-strong "Logan". Well, jump on a small rise fourth - business. Of course, on mountain serpentines, the picture would have become completely different, but with a calm ride in the conditions of the middle band of Russia, the loss in the dynamics should be compensated by a moderate appetite of the new engine. (He, by the way, is not ready to consume 92nd gasoline and requires only the 95th.)

And what in fact? We refuel the cars under the eyebreaker and reset the odometers. After 455 km, Logan has already moved to the burning of the remaining half of the 50-liter tank, and Sandero was still clogged to his middle. Benching in economy - approximately 10%.

Asphalt changed the primer, and soon we have already rolled over the edge of the overgrown field to a secret mushroom place. This track brought several discoveries at once. First: Dosing a smaller motor craving is noticeably more difficult. We marked it in the city, when there is no no yes and jammed by Sandero's lacquer on traffic lights. And when driving a "whisper" in the forest bumps, it is stupid constantly. Loganovsky 1.6 with a significant advantage in the thrust (+ 38 N · m) and a more sensitive clutch drive here out of competition.

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08.Where "Logan" hangs out the wheel, Sandero does not break off from the ground: the difference in the length of the wheelbase is affected.

Where "Logan" hangs out the wheel, Sandero does not break off from the ground: the difference in the length of the wheelbase is affected.

Where "Logan" hangs out the wheel, Sandero does not break off from the ground: the difference in the length of the wheelbase is affected.

The second opening concerns the work of the suspension. Where "Logan" moderately swing and gently extinguishes unevenness, Sundero relieves straightening the shock absorbers during the penalty and at the same time returns irregularities in the salon with pricky peaks of vertical accelerations.

The difference between the settings of the chassis and the base wheel base is explained and early posting the rear wheel "Logan" - opening number three.

And the fourth "Eureka" sounded on the tasted clearing, where Sandero turned into one approach, and "Logan" mastered the maneuver only in two receptions. Not surprising: the wheelbase of the hatchback is shorter than 45 mm, by 266 mm less and the total length of the machine. But for some reason, the reversal radius, according to the manufacturer, they have the same ...

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So, time to forget about emotions and dig in price lists. Very exciting process!

For example, there are coincidences almost exactly. The basic price of our Sandero with a 75-strong motor volume of 1.2 liters - 429 thousand rubles. And from Logan for 428 thousand - 102-strong 1.6. Jump on two steps up - at the same prices! What do we get, giving an extra one thousand casual and not at all extra 27 "horses"?

Both cars will be in the conffort confort, but at the same time on Sundero already there are fog drawers (the buyer "Logan" will have to give extra 5000 rubles for them), cruise control (opponent is powerless squeezing fists), the folding back of the rear seat and the second pillow Safety (Logan's buyer is nervous and prepares 9,000 rubles per package with the same rear back and normal head restraints). You can buy on every car in the winter package (11 thousand and 14 thousand rubles, respectively) - these are heated seats and mirrors, and for "Logan" also heated windscreen.

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12The road clearance of both cars was even more declared - 160 mm.

The road clearance of both cars was even more declared - 160 mm.

The road clearance of both cars was even more declared - 160 mm.

The rest of the joy of life like air conditioning (25 thousand), metallic (8 thousand) and other pleasures are equally available to both.

So, at an equal price with "Logan", 1,2-liter Sandero will be quite an "european" - with a more complete set of safety and comfort devices. But - with a motor for two steps below ...

Check this output by another example. Again almost the same prices: 454 thousand stands "Sandero" with a maximum engine 1.6 (102 hp) and 456 thousand asked for "Logan" with the average in the range of the same volume (1.6 l, 82 hp) . The hatchback will be in the already familiar conformity of "Confort", and the sedan will step on the next step - "vaccine": flightcomputer, air conditioning, rear power windows, navigation for ridiculous 10 thousand rubles, fog lights ... in general, minus motor, plus comfort.

Well, on the sweet, let's take cars with equal motors of 1.6 liters. The difference between Sundero and Logan (equipment takes the same names and minor differences in the lists of equipment) will be approximately 30 thousand rubles - in favor of the sedan. Total: minus 30 thousand, plus the practicality of the hatchback. As before, two steps, only on different stairs.

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Renault Logan against Renault Sandero: Mushroom Disputes

We are looking for differences between the blood brothers Renault - Logan and Sandero. The choice of body is a matter of taste and addiction. If you are interested in equal hatchback, the sedan is more comfortable. And if we are talking about one model, but with different motors?

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What is better to buy Sandero or Logan?

Car enthusiasts are often wondering: what else to choose - "Logan" or "Sandero" and at the same time, what equipment prefer? Consider this question on the example of two cars at once.

After updating the appearance of a two-year old ago, all modifications "Renault Logan" including AUTENTIQUE 1.

4, have acquired several not very noticeable, but rather important advantages, the main of which increased mirrors, formerly privilege only Prestige.

Another advantage is excellent door handles, which, unfortunately, are available on the front doors, and a more comfortable steering wheel.

The most visible differences in Prestige and Expression - This is a finish of edging of the central console and deflectors with silver plastic and the other inhabitants of the chairs are committed. In addition, Renault Expression gives the characteristic front two-color panel.

Sandero or Logan?

However, the time has come a more detailed parsing. So, on one cup is Renault Logan 1.4 Expression with a manual transmission and additional options, including: climate control system, ABS system, two airbags and metallic painting. As a result, the cost is 411,800 rubles.

The counterweight was put Renault Sandero 1.6 Prestige with automatics at a price of 534,000 rubles. Almost the cost of the off-road STEPWAY modification with automatic transmission and the engine with the 16th valves. If you compare "Logan" and "Sandero" with a similar level of equipment, then the hatchback will have to pay 10,000 rubles.

What are the differences? And what would you like to see in Renault Logan?

The main difference, of course, is the luggage compartment. In Renault Logan, the cargo compartment is almost twice as much as the Sandero, and this is 510 and 320 liters, respectively.

However, if the hatchback the trunk can be quite easy to increase to 1320 liters, then with the sedan, it will still have to tinker well, because the rear sofa does not fold the back, but completely removed, for which, naturally, the appropriate tool will be needed.

Nevertheless, it is not enough to move large cargo of this, as it is necessary to remove the metal crossbars. Between them, it will be possible to place the sport consignor or building materials.

The luggage compartment "Renault Sandero" is more convenient not only by folding backs of the rear sofa, but also a handle to close the door, while the Logan cargo compartment must be closed, taking care of a bare metal with a pretty sharp edge. However, Renault Logan significantly wins in the amount and convenient location of full-size "spare tracks", while Sundero is attached to the bottom of the car.

Stock Foto Comparison Renault Logan and Renault Sandero

It is curious that the converted Renault Logan received a plastic cap on the towing hook, while the Sandero has a loop for towing discovers from the rear bumper. But the new minus, which appeared from Logan, is that he lost the slightest outdoor handle to open the luggage compartment, whereas earlier was at least a small plastic "tongue."

Otherwise, the differences between the sedan and hatchback are exclusively in the body set, optics and details of the appearance of cars. And, here, the equipment from them is similar.

It is worth it, however, to recover, since the "automatic" box is in completeness only with a 16-valued 1,6-liter power unit with a capacity of 102 "horses".

The most accessible "Logan" with such an engine costs at least 435,000 rubles.

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Renault Logan Expression is equipped with black door handles, unpacked mirrors and 14 "Stamped wheels with caps, while Renault Sandero Prestige has 15" alloy wheels. Ugly? Maybe. But much more practical.

Door handles on "Sander" similar to the Renault Symbol installed on the sedan. In addition to the fact that they are quite large and made cheap and unpleasant to the touch of plastic.

Such handles are even reminded by the "soap dish" overlays, so when the VAZ 2109 owners are becoming popular.

Equipment is practically no different. You will have to pay exactly the same, and for the ABS system with two frontal airbags - 19,800 rubles, and for the air conditioning system - 22,000, and even for the "fog" - 4,300 rubles.

Moreover, such additional features as heated seats, heating and electrical drive mirrors are not available in the Expression configuration.

If there is no desire to deny yourself in the "winter package", you will have to acquire Sandero or Logan in the prestige configuration, which will cost 496,300 rubles.

Differences of Logan and Sandero

In all versions of Sandero and Logan, the front seats are identical. Unfortunately, they are all inconvenient for most car enthusiasts. No side support, nor profile. The heating button is located in the Blind Zone.

But the back is so spacious that three adult people of the average set can be located freely. However, in Renault Logan a little more of the foot scene, for comparison, in the Renault Sandero, the wheelbase is less than 42 millimeters.

Another small feature is tiping the fabric of the door panels in Sandero Prestige.

Surely, it is such a position with the configurations (or expression without all kinds of desired "frills", or expensive Prestige) and was the cause of completely non-original mirrors with heating and all sorts of "heating capes" for seats. Of course, it is possible to live without all these "frills", however, the modern auto industry was already able to break the car enthusiast such with such a uncomply equipped.

Unconditional minus in Prestige is a dashboard. On the one hand, the white color of the scale revives the interior.

However, it is good afternoon, but it is only worth going to the tunnel or get behind the wheel in the evening or at night, as you immediately have difficulty getting data on engine speed and speed - amber backlight on a white background makes the dashboard completely "blind".

Standard EXPRESSION package is much more infurring. Yes, and digitization is made in the usual format "20-40-60", and not "30-50-70", like most of the "French".

The levers of gearboxes in both cars are quite simple, but, nevertheless, very comfortable. And on long trips, the unexpected advantage of high handle automatic transmission was manifested - in the "D" position, it can be used as ... Armrest.

Lay out 9,000 for the "factory" optional magnet BLAUPUNKT there is absolutely no reason, it is better to purchase something for the same money. You will have to, of course, still spend on a couple of front speakers (the wiring in the door is provided and has already been carried out).

There is, however, a special modification of Renault Sandero Energy, in which the remote control of the car and AUX connector is under the steering.

Its cost from 415,000 per car with a 1.6-liter engine for 8 valves and manual transmission and from 471,000 per machine with a 16-valve power installation and automatic transmission.

Comparison of standard Renault Sandero and Logan engines that it is better to take

Also, many are interested in such a question, the basic "engine" in 75 "horses" is so bad.

If it is mainly supposed to travel in conditions of the city and not completely load the car, and it copes perfectly with his tasks.

Since, the MCPP has not only a good lever drive, but the optimally selected gear ratios - "Logan 1.4" during the transition to the next step does not "occur."

All power units installed on "Logan" and Sandero have long been tested on other "Renault" models, for this reason "childhood diseases" for them are no longer found. And the basic 1,4-liter and 16-valve "engine" by 1.6 liters can "eat" 92th gasoline. The neck of the capacitance with the washing liquid is quite uncomfortable - near the windshield.

However, it is worth loading inside "Logan 1.4" 3-4 people, as he immediately "swept." What to say is that the overtone is planned to be planned for a kilometer on a riding two-track track.

So lovers travel to the company, of course, it is necessary to prefer "Logan 1.6", at least with an 8-valve engine and a capacity of 84 horsepower.

Of course, it will have to pay extra 15,000 rubles, but this car enthusiasts receive not only additional nine horsepower, but he is also more "travelers."

On the move "Sandero" with a 16-valve engine does not give any Renault Logan chance with a power plant in 75 horsepower, even if you have "automation".

Video test drive of two cars from "driving": Logan and Sandero

But here's a 16-valve modification for Renault Logan seems unnecessary - of course, it goes soon, but is it worth paying extra 21,000 for it? By that two "lichen" horsepower, the car translate the car to another transport tax rate and the OSAGO policy. Another Sandero with a 16V engine on the move turned out to be tougher than "Logan 1.4", although the excellent energy intensity of the suspension remained the same. Prestige noise insulation is no better - inside, as before noisy.

Renault Logan is 230 millimeters longer than Sandero. Almost all the increase is due to the rear scene.

So still prefer? If an automatic transmission is so important, then in this case without questions - it's worth choosing only with a 16-valve engine in 1.6 liters and only in the Prestige configuration. But choose "Logan" or "Sandero" is the case of personal taste and the need for frequent transformation of the rear sofa.

By the way, next year, a production of 160,000 cars is scheduled at the Autoframos plant, but by preliminary information, the share of Sandero has only 20% instead of 50%, which are given to Renault Logan. This means that the hatchbacks will be produced much less than in the current year, and the released production capacity will be transferred to the Renault Duster crossover.

Would you like to buy "Sandero"? In this case, it is worth hurry.

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What is better than Logan or Sandero

What is better, Logan or Sandero?

Logan and Sandero, although made on one platform, but still different cars and the choice arises a natural question: What is better, Logan or Sandero? What are their advantages and disadvantages? We will try to consider these cars in more detail.

Appearance. Logan - a car on an amateur in design. You can not say that the design is bad, but too, it is cheap and utilitarian, someone can like, and someone and their majority, no.

Sandero compared to Logan looks much more attractive, of course, his design is far from grace, but in general, not bad.

In general, the design is better not to discuss, too much will be meaningless disputes, which is better.

Interior space and salon. That Sandero and that Logan has almost the same salon, distinguishing only in the trifles and repeating the overall concept of cars: as cheaper as possible, up to kidness. Yes, the inner decoration of both cars does not shine with grace, but practical.

But for the capacity of Logan and Sandero differ. The base of Sandero is shorter, smaller and its total length, respectively, it is sweating and the trunk is smaller. But the possibility of transformation of the salon from Sandero is more. Therefore, the best option for comparison is to just see both cars in the car dealership and decide on the spot which one is better.

Chassis. Since cars are made on one platform, then the running parts do not differ from them and equally well behave in domestic roads. It could be said that Logan's base is more and, accordingly, it will be better to be stability, however, the protruding trunk of Logan has a certain moment of inertia, which practically equalizes cars along the chassis.

Engines. Here there is nothing to say, the same motors are installed on Logan and Sandero, and the mass of cars is almost the same. Therefore, there is no better, they are the same.

Price. On average Sandero stands on 10 tr. More expensive Logan in a similar configuration, apparently this is a surcharge for a more elegant design. Both cars have original configuration or versions, for example, Sandero Stepway. Accordingly, there is no better here, they will be equal.

Based on the foregoing, it is possible to recommend simply to come to the car dealership and decide on the spot which of these cars is better. Watch cars inside, evaluate the capacity of the cabin and trunk, compare the design and make a choice, not paying attention to the technical details.

Thin faces: Comparison Renault Logan and Renault Sandero

When the budget sedan Renault Logan first appeared on the Russian market. He immediately got tremendous popularity among family people who appreciated him for greater capacity and comfortable rear seat. However, not everyone liked the design of the machine, and the practicality of such a body, like a sedan, left a place for many questions.

Therefore, in 2008, the Sandero hatchback was released, which was intended for the youth audience, characterized by active behavior and high demands for the convenience of the car. Since the machines are built on a common platform, say that it is better - Logan or Sandero, it is not possible to immediately.

However, we will try to find these thin verges by comparing between two cars from Renault.

Appearance

If in the previous generation of the Sandero hatchback and the classic Logan sedan completely differed from each other, now the front cars are very easy to confuse each other. If we talk about the differences, then you need to look at the cars in the profile.

Renault designers decided to make an emphasis on the similarity of Sandero with a crossover, which was emphasized by massive rear racks and original submarines stretching from the back door handle to the edge of the lantern.

In combination with a slight slope of almost horizontal roof, these elements make Renault Sandero more massive, despite the fact that in reality the car is shorter than Logan and does not exceed it in height and width.

But the Renault Logan sedan looks not so solid. It also contains large rear racks and undercuts on the sidewalls of the body, but these design elements are lost against the background of a massive trunk. Interestingly, the new sedan looks more hardly than the Logan of the last generation.

This stylistic solution can be called controversial, since the Renault car has become more solid, but after the update, the appearance cannot be called particularly stylish and dynamic.

Renault employees have achieved their goal - two cars built on a common platform look very different.

Renault Logan against Renault Sandero: Mushroom Disputes

Debates about what car is called "right" - hatchback or sedan, almost like the car itself. And if the choice goes within the same model?

The new "Sandero" after the "Logan" received a registration in Togliatti this year. Sedan rides in editorial business since the beginning of summer. But the hatchback in our hands was for the first time. An excellent opportunity to find ten differences - or make sure that there is no particular difference and no (not counting, of course, another body).

The base "Sandero" is equipped with the most economical and modern in the lineup of the gasoline engine - 1.2 liters, 75 hp I came to a change similar in terms of the "old man" with a volume of 1.4 liters. Logan has no such. Fine! We take "Sandero" with the "younger" engine, and "Logan" - with the most powerful, 102-strong, volume of 1.6 liters.

Since the first "Logan" appeared, the popularity of the popular "Renault" grows as mushrooms after the rain. Here on the mushrooms we will check our disputes: what is more convenient, what aicient, and what is more economical and cheaper? Who will be called an agarity, and whom Borovik?

But before we go into the forest, look at the Dmitrovsky automotive polygon and examine the "mushrooms" from the head to the leg.

The choice of body is a matter of taste and addiction. If you are interested in equal hatchback, the sedan is more comfortable. Motor 1.2 ... not an amicer, of course, but the economy is unjustified

White and tower

Do you reach the edge? Measurements of the road lumen were surprised: both machines are 160 mm - by 6 mm more than the manufacturer later.

This fact caused legitimate respect, because it is not just millimeters, but the synonym for freedom of movement in Russian primers.

In parallel, we note the solid metal protection of the engine, plastic pipe treads on the left side of the bottom and the lack of protruding elements.

Where are we going to prey? According to our measurements, the hatchback loses the sedan in the volume of the trunk as much as the manufacturer is only 96 liters). But the "Sandero" gives Ogean's Oboan for the convenience of loading the boot and placement of long-term. The opening of the trunk at the hatchback is noticeably more, behind the folding backs of the rear seats - the "Logan" space is satisfied with the narrow window.

Common for two models Note: It would be more expedient to be folding backs to change places - the one is that more, not to put for the driver's seat, and for the passenger. So it would be possible to carry larger cargo by putting the driver of the front passenger and moves forward its seat as much as possible.

Sand in the Sundero is a bit more convenient thanks to the shape of the doorway. But the places are slightly more in Logan.

At first, we liked the fitting of the details and the neat assembly of both machines. But the sharp eye of the mushroommnik will not be deceive, and therefore there were tapers: we found the "Logan" passenger feet and in the trunk of Sandero, "extra" self-sufficiency and pistons.

Are they really extra? Or just not put in place? The only drawback under the bottom is the testing of the exhaust gas toxicity sensor to the Sundero. The "Logan" had no savory.

Check out on your car and, if necessary, fasten: an uneven hour, wiring fears for a tubercle ...

Well, it's time to start the motors. Conducting parallels between the technique and the animal world, I would like to note: the one is smaller and weaken, for some reason, always louder and shrieking.

Given the identity of the transmissions (five-speed boxes are the same, except that on the fifth gear of the less powerful "Sandero" gear ratio is slightly higher), we tend to seek the causes in the features of the body, as well as in the difference in tread tread patterns.

"Sandero", as the measurements showed, turned out to be significantly noisy at a speed of 120 km / h, when in the automotive orchestra, the main parties sing the tires.

The lack of a 1.2-liter motor power was especially manifested with elasticity measurements. On the fourth gear in the range of 60-100 km / h, the backlog is not so noticeable.

But when driving on the fifth in the range of 80-120 km / h, it seems that the hatchback does not accelerate at all! And then, trying to try the galoshes of the buyer, you begin to repent, which preferred a 1,2-liter engine. Adding 5000 rubles, I would take a car with a 1.6-liter engine in 82 hp

And if you throw another 20 thousand, then 102-strong. But - not surcharge. The sedan almost disappeared from sight, and you all trample a gas pedal in vain hope is not lagging behind ...

Renault Logan or Renault Sandero

1st place: 5-door hatchback (Sandero). Such supermini is spacious than other cars class older. The sofa will easily settle adults up to 190 cm.

And his back is foldable, which together with a wide rear opening and a removable trunk shelf opens the most ample opportunities for transportation.

And finally, only in such a body you can buy "Steppende" - a car with an increased to 18 cm of the road lumen, plastic body kit around the perimeter and stylish roof rails.

2nd place: 4-door sedan ("Logan"). The salon is as spacious here, and the price is 10 thousand modest. However, the sedan is significantly inferior to the 5-door in functionality.

The back of its sofa can be dismantled only after not the most simple plumbing operations, and the loops with the impressive springs of the trunk lid eat a good share of the useful volume.

Accordingly, the possibilities for the transport of large-sized are significantly limited.

Buy the basic "followyk" is only a big fan of extreme simplicity. Get a "naked" body on narrow (165 mm) wheels, with unpacked bumpers and a 1.4 liter base engine. Even for an amplifier, the steering wheel will have to pay extra, and from modern security facilities did not stumble only at the driver's airbag.

Exprisement costs 31,000 rubles. But you get a noticeably more comfortable car. Here, instead of regular non-zero grooves, grapted inner handles of doors are installed.

Equipped with an amplifier steering wheel can be adjusted over the angle of tilt, the glass in the front doors are lowered using the electric drive, the center console will decorate the pad under aluminum, and the devices are neat chrome rings.

Such little things like decorative caps of wheels, which can be taken from a few meters for discs made of light alloy, central locking and pair of head restraints on the sofa will undoubtedly be useful.

True, in order to turn "Exprise" into a full-fledged modern supermini, another 40-50 thousand for additional equipment will still need. And nevertheless, this version is optimal for the machine with the ACP.

After all, the top "prestige" is more expensive for another 42,000 rubles. But it is good, mostly, what is equipped with air conditioning and electric mirrors. However, its components as brilliant lining on the salon and in the exterior, the budget car looks in excess.

Not the best way readable devices with white scales and red lights - and even decoration on an amateur. The buttons of the rear power windows installed in the rear of the central tunnel are generally mockery.

And most importantly, the second pillow, ABS and wheels from the light alloy will still require additional money.

If you agree to "Mechanics", it is necessary to look at two other recently emerged versions. The first, Sundero Steppey, more expensive "express" for weighty 62,000 rubles.

However, such a hatchback is very skillfully masked under a trendy compact "PARQUIDE" and self-sufficient equipment: air conditioning, fog-tumanks, heating of the front seats, metallic, 15-inch light alloy wheels, leather trim, ABS and a second airbag. It is easy to calculate that, taking into account the options "Steppende" cheaper "prestige" by 28,100 rubles.

Logan is well fits well-series "Black Line" - with air conditioning, cast discs and fog lights. Such more expensive "Exprise" by 30,000 rubles. It is bad just that this machine can only be black.

Engine.

1st place: 1.6 l (84 l.). Time-tested 8-valve is confidently lucky with idle, allowing even errors in choosing gear. He is good and ease of control of the burden - both in the city and on the highway. It is a pity, like any of the three engines, this is noisy on high speed, and fuel consumption could be smaller. Finally, the "automaton" does not get with him.

2nd place: 1.4 l (75 l.). Despite the small power, it accelerates the car quickly and in equal configuration to 15,000 rubles. Cheaper. However, 1.4 is much more sensitive to the load. His thrust is noticeably modest. It is less convenient not only when traveling with three-four passengers, but also for driving on the primer.

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Renault Logan and Sandero # 8212 These are almost the same cars, the differences are just that Logan # 8212 is a sedan, and Sandero # 8212 hatchback. In terms of comfort, dynamics, reliability # 8212 are completely identical.

These cars have the same design, platform, engines, technology and the rest, only different names, dimensions, and prices. Do you know how Datsun on-do (sedan) and Danches Mi-do (hatchback)

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Renault Sandero or Logan, what is better, why?

Currently, the market presents a wide range of cars of various brands and models; In particular, the Renault Logan model range, Sandero has options from budget to more expensive.

But what is the main thing for the buyer when choosing a car? This is primarily an optimal combination of price and quality, which is fully inherent in Logan models, Sandero, secondly, reliability in operation and, of course, inexpensive repairs in the event of a breakdown.

That is why even more often buyers stop their choice on the Renault model series, in particular, on models like Logan or Sandero.

What is better to choose Sandero or Logan? What is the difference? Which one is reliable? Or without any difference? one

Both of these cars are very reliable and relevant. In essence, the difference only will be to choose in terms of your external preferences and what kind of body you like it. I personally simply sympathizes exactly, and it seems to me the most practical and convenient in terms of transporting things. Although At the same Logan is a very big trunk.

Our long-lasting test Renault Sandero continues. The gray-green hatchback does not cause any trouble, regularly takes us on editorial and personal needs.

We have already accumulated a lot of impressions about the car, but in this publication we will not tell about how Sandero goes with the "automatic".

We often ask a completely different question: What to choose - Sandero or Logan? And what prefer to make a complete set? We answer the example of two cars at once.

Renault is one of the most popular cars in the world. It is popular among comfort lovers and reliability. Sandero Stepway and Logan - Similar models.

They are even called their native brothers due to the common platform and similarities in appearance and internal device. But between them there are differences due to the benefits and disadvantages of models.

Many drivers wishing to buy a car of this brand are asked: what model is better. Let's try to compare both options and choose the optimal one.

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I am the owner of Renault Logan 2008 with a 1.6 engine, air conditioning also available.

When choosing a car, I also highlighted Renault Sandero, as more interesting on the design of the car, but at the same time the same reliable as Renault Logna. When analyzing the used car, I thought for a long time to buy Logan or Sandero.

My choice fell on Logan and it is not easy. Since Logan is a sedan, and Sandero is a haterback. But this is not all their differences.

Exterior Salon Technical characteristics of the filling and price of Logan and Sandero from Renault - as two native brothers. Made on one platform, but still there is a difference in them. And the one, and the other model possesses, both advantages and some shortcomings. How to decide what is better?

Previously, Renault Sandero looked much advantageous than his fellow Logan. Currently, an amazing similarity is traced between the updated models.

The differences are limited to small changes in the shape of the luggage compartment and fog headlights. For Sandero 2, the alignment of the trunk with the passenger compartment is characteristic. Slightly shorter at the hatchback wheelbase (45 mm).

However, such a difference is not particularly noticeable for passengers placed on the rear seats.

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Choosing one of these cars, first of all pay attention to the qualities that are most important to you, and then consider the pros and cons of each car. Renault has long been known to our car enthusiasts. In its asset - accessibility, simplicity, and therefore reliability.

Perhaps it looks not very modern, not very stylish, but what can be demanded from the car for the money? Nevertheless, Renault Logan uses steady demand. A few years after his release, Renault decided to retesting.

He more influenced the appearance of the car, and not on its content.

The idea of ​​developing a cheap, but fairly high-quality car, which could attract a massive buyer, originated in Renault in Renault. The project was founded in 1998, and he was named Renault X90.

At first, the cost of the car was supposed to keep at the level of about 5,000 dollars.

Renault Logan, according to a new concept, became the first available car on the market, but the cost in the estimated level was failed.

So, Renault Logan. It does not require large maintenance costs, has a normal road lumen, designed for large runs of runs.

A couple of years ago, the model was restyling, as a result of which the front mirrors were increased, and more comfortable door handles and a new steering wheel were installed. Logan 1.

4 Expression is equipped with a manual gearbox and other pleasant options: two airbags, ABS, air conditioning.

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Car enthusiasts are often wondering: what else to choose - "Logan" or "Sandero" and at the same time, what equipment prefer? Consider this question on the example of two cars at once.

After updating the appearance of a two-year old ago, all modifications "Renault Logan" including AUTENTIQUE 1.4, acquired several not very visible, but rather important advantages, the main of which increased mirrors, formerly privilege only Prestige.

Another advantage is excellent door handles, which, unfortunately, are available on the front doors, and a more comfortable steering wheel.

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What is better than Logan or Sandero what is better, Logan or Sandero? Logan and Sandero, although made on one platform, but still different cars and the choice arises a natural question: what is better, Logan or Sandero? What are their advantages and disadvantages? We will try to consider these cars in more detail.

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Logan and Sandero from Renault - as two native brothers. Made on one platform, but still there is a difference in them. And the one, and the other model possesses, both advantages and some shortcomings. How to decide what is better? Exterior design - the first thing to pay attention to. It is in the body and items of the exterior who lies the main differences.

Relatively recently some companies, car manufacturers, for the sake of raising sales went to an unusual step: added a budget car to their model range.

What is different from an ordinary car? In the production of a budget class machine, cheaper interior decoration materials can be used, outdated solutions in engine and suspension designs, less high-quality body painting.

Due to this, the final buyer receives a "simplified" version of the new car, which, at least for several years, should not deliver the hassle to its owner.

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What is better: Logan 2 or Sandero 2? And what, in fact, the difference?

Renault Sandero 2015.

Previously, Renault Sandero looked much advantageous than his fellow Logan. Currently, an amazing similarity is traced between the updated models.

The differences are limited to small changes in the shape of the luggage compartment and fog headlights. For Sandero 2, the alignment of the trunk with the passenger compartment is characteristic. Slightly shorter at the hatchback wheelbase (45 mm).

However, such a difference is not particularly noticeable for passengers placed on the rear seats.

New White Logan 2

A renewed Sundero 2015 and some technical innovations were acquired. First of all, it should be noted the new 1.2-liter engine with 16 valves, developing power in 75 hp.

The specified model is inferior to Logan in sufficient, ahead of the larger counterfeit on economic indicators. According to the manufacturer's assurances, in the urban cycle auto consumes 7.7 liters of fuels per hundred kilometers.

For a suburban cycle, this parameter is reduced to 5.1 liters. The mixed cycle involves consumption in the area of ​​6 liters.

Sandero Salon 2.

Neither hatchback nor a new sedan is no longer equipped with 1.4 liter engines. The minimum equipment of Sandero 2015 (in contrast to Logan) implies the presence of a power steering and folding seats in the proportion of 40 to 60.

It is for this reason that the owner will have to post an additional 25,000 rubles for the vending car. The maximum "filling" of Sandero 2 and Logan 2 is almost identical (cruise and climate control, etc.

), and the difference in the cost is also small (515,000 and 508,000 rubles, respectively).

Brown Logan 2015 Rear

According to the manufacturer, the new Sandero will be able to conquer the love of representatives of the weaker sex. And this is despite the fact that the presence of a box-machine is still only to dream (in the future it will be corrected).

Changed in the wasting hatch and the location of the spare wheel. Earlier, the SUVs for the spawn was given a plot under the bottom. With this method of fastening about the purity of the wheel, if necessary, its replacement could not be speech.

In the renewed sandero, a full-size spare wheel was once again found in the trunk (under the raised floor).

Red Stepway Second Generation

The role of the main opponents of the Sandero model is in demand in Russia Skoda Fabia and Rapid, Nissan Almera Classic, Kia Rio, Opel Corsa and Hyundai Solaris. Many Russians anticipate the appearance of the crossover version - Sandero Stepway 2. To admire on StepWay 2015 in the salons of dealers, car enthusiasts will be able to this fall.

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What to choose Renault Sandero 1.2 or Renault Logan 1.6 - configuration, prices, comparison of technical specifications

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Unlike Logan, Renault Sandero hatchback is available with a new engine 1.2 (75 hp) and costs 7 thousand cheaper than grade 1.6 (82 hp).

It is worth saving on the engine, to compare the dynamic characteristics, Renault Logan 1.6 (82 hp) was taken to the hatchback.

Is the economy justified? Let's try to understand the practice, comparing Renault Sandero in a new body and configuration at a lower price you see in the photo, and Renault Logan.

Deep Review Renault Logan is held not so long ago. Now it will be possible to see its capabilities against the background of the Sandero hatchback, because for Logan is not offered engine 1.2. Thus, attention can be paid to the trunk, and the heart of vehicles - the engine, and the equipment as a whole.

By the way, for fans of Renault Logan, we have a pleasant news: the car for 82 horsepower has recently managed to decrease in price.

Of course, the dollar jumps first raised its cost, but then the situation has stabilized.

The level of last 2014 is still far (and it is unlikely that the price indicator will reach the mark), but still the car has become more accessible than a few months ago.

The fall in prices is observed not only on Logan, but also on Sandero. On average, these cars began to cost less at 21-25 thousand rubles (equipment influences the difference). If you take the basic versions of Logan and Sandero for the material comparison, then even when the engine is 1.6, the sedan costs 25 thousand rubles cheaper than the hatchback 1.2.

In full cost it looks like 429 thousand against 454 thousand rubles. For the sake of justice, we note that 13 thousand of this difference goes on a fee for the power steering, which there is no Logan, and Sandero is included in the package.

If we consider the price of the sedan performed by Privilege, then its price is 535 thousand, and this is 25 thousand rubles more than you give for Sandero Confort 1.2.

The differences between Renault Logan and Sandero are enough. In the sedan there is a lot of additional options - climate control, equipment of side pillows for improving security, navigation with sensor, heating windshield, rear parking sensors, etc. All this pleasure is in total 600 thousand rubles.

If you consider the package and technical characteristics of Renault Sandero 2017, it will become apparent that the beam is less, but the price is not much lower than - 573 thousand. So if your goal is to buy a machine with a variety of onboard equipment Privilege - what you need.

As for the aesthetics, in this matter, the Logan Privilege vehicle clearly wins: a deep color, a romantically referred to as "azure blue", covered with chrome Cant of fog headlamps, stylish linings on door handles, turn signals on the mirrors - all this bribes fans of beautiful cars. As for the internal differences, the steering wheel of Sandero does not have tights, however, it is not very slippery, the lighting light in the cabin is only one (instead of three), the glove box is not highlighted, and the rear windows are not equipped with a lifting case and are adjusted manually.

Seat profile is the same unsuccessful as in Renault Logan. The driver's seat in configuration confort is not adjustable in height.

Slogan for the campaign for the sale of Sandero is "more of the city" - in principle justifies.

The hatchback at 266 millimeters shorter than the sedan, which means it will be better to maneuver on the vehicles overcrowded by the streets of the megapolis and can squeeze into parking even with a large number of other autos.

Procurement of the body is achieved by reducing the space in the back seat, the passengers will have to pick legs.

Conducting test drive Renault Sandero 2017, we find and quite a few advantages. One of them is excellent quality and endurance of the suspension. This is explained by the fact that the Logan platform is taken as the basis.

In addition, Sandero has a better visibility, so the dead zone of lateral mirrors is reduced.

The rear parking sensor is not the subject of the need, because the trunk door is almost completely vertical.

In the basic configuration RENAULT Sandero, the back of the rear sofa can be folded in parts. The volume of the trunk is 320 liters, the compartment form is convenient, the opening is wide. An innovation that cannot be noted is the placement of "spares" inside, and not in a suspended state under the bottom, as was the predecessor.

Technical characteristics of Renault Sandero with a motor 1.2 allow the vehicle to be an active participant in the road. The tachometer arrow can reach the indicator of 6 thousand revolutions, but on the car Logan 1.6 the engine is totted after 5 thousand.

With the help of a special device Racelogic, we conducted overclocking measurements at the level of 60, 80 and 100 km / h. In the lower indicator 60 km / h, both cars go almost the same (the difference is 0.5-0.7 seconds).

At 80 km / h, Sandero lags behind Logan by 1.2 - 1.4 seconds.

Renault Sandero gives you the opportunity to go quadruple and even take a ski with you, folding only a third of the rear seating-sofa.

Larger items can also be accommodated by placing them diagonally (the distance from the trunk to the back of the front armchair is 175 cm, and Sandero has only 147).

It is easier to carry out the loading in the hatchback, because the opening is wider than 8 cm, and Logan has a useful space of the lid loops.

Up to one hundred Sandero accelerates longer, spends 2 seconds more than Logan 1.6. Absolute figures are far from ideal: the manufacturer stated 14.5 seconds, and in practice it turned out at the best attempt of 16.3 seconds. True, the tests were carried out on winter tires with a wet and cold road surface.

The higher the speed developed, the more significant difference between the machines at 82 and 75 "horses". To disperse Sandero from 100 to 140 km / h more time will need.

If you regularly overcome long distance along the highway or two-band tracks, which often need to be overtaking, it is necessary to abandon the engine 1.2 and do not save, buy a car more powerful.

In this case, the engine will need to be kept in a tone: turns should not be reduced below 3000 per minute, torque is a solid advantage.

Sandero Confort does not have noise insulation in a complete set, but equipped with gas emphasis. Engine 1.2 is much weaker than motor 1.6, torque below (107 N * m at 4250 rpm instead of 134 N * m at 2800 rpm). Warming an aggregate of 75 liters. from. It is carried out quite quickly.

If you are mostly moving around urban roads, then Sandero is what you need. Fuel consumption will be 2 liters less than Logan - 8 against 10 liters per 100 km. For those who go a lot, the savings will be obvious.

What to choose?

Thus, the Renault Sandero hatchback makes it possible to choose the option that will meet all your requirements: there are cars are economical, fast, and recently appeared SUV STEPWAY. The overall drawback of all these Renault cars is the lack of an automatic transmission. However, the manufacturer promises it soon to fix.

In the meantime, you can again study the photo of Renault Sandero in a new body and configuration at a price, which is quite accessible and justified, and make a final decision on the acquisition of this car.

A source: http://renault-grand.ru/obzory-i-Testy/chto-Sandero-12

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